Denise Welch, the mother of Taylor Swift‘s ex-boyfriend Matty Healy, took aim at the pop superstar when she appeared on Bravo TV’s Watch What Happens Live on Thursday.

Denise Welch

The English actress appeared on the most recent episode of WWHL thanks to a run-in with host Andy Cohen on Loose Women, where he promised to let her come on the show.

However, the 67-year-old presenter took a cautious tone after host Andy Cohen quizzed her about what it was like when Taylor — who has moved on with Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce — released her Tortured Poets Department album in 2024.

Fans believe Taylor wrote several of the songs on the chart-topping album about her short-lived romance with Healy.

But Welch seemed to accuse Swift’s fans of lashing out at anyone who dares to criticize the hitmaker, even as she takes ultra-personal digs at her exes in her massively popular songs.

In response to Cohen’s question about her reaction to the album, Welch replied: ‘Obviously, on pain of death can I talk about that episode, but being her mother-in-law is a role that I am glad that I lost.’

The confession elicited shocked gasps from the audience members, but Welch quickly tried to tamp them down.

‘Not that I have anything against her at all!’ she said emphatically over the awkward audience chatter. ‘It was just — it was tricky,’ Welch added.

The Celebrity Big Brother then paused before taking her chances speaking about Swift.

Welch seemed to suggested that Swift’s fans police any critical statements about the pop star, who is then free to settle scores via her songs.

‘She — listen, you’re not allowed to say anything, and then she writes a whole album about it,’ Welch said.

But she clarified that her son — the frontman for The 1975 — is taking the aftermath of Swift’s album ‘all in completely good grace.’

Welch also said Healy was ‘very happy with his amazing fiancée Gabriella,’ a model and singer who works under the name Gabbriette, whom she called ‘gorgeous.’

‘So, we’ve moved on,’ Welch added to applause.